Black and White Stories Podcast

Philippa O’Donnell and Vicki Clark OAM talk about their lives before Black and White Stories and how a chance meeting led to the establishment of this charitable company that’s focused on preserving and sharing stories about First Nations people working with the wider community to share cultural knowledge for everyone’s benefit.

See this article in The Smithsonian for more about Vicki’s maternal grandmother, Alice Kelly, and the part she played in the repatriation of Mungo Lady and Mungo Man: “The first quiet protests over archaeological work had begun years earlier over Mungo Lady, led by her mother, Alice Kelly, who would turn up with other women at new digs and demand an explanation, carrying a dictionary so she could understand the jargon. “My mum wrote letters,” recalls her daughter. “So many letters!”.


People interviewed for the Voices on The Voice podcast.

Philippa speaks to people around Australia about the proposed changes to be made to the Australian Constitution when Australia votes in the 14 October 2023 Referendum.

These views, shared by black and white Australians, are more measured than many you will hear on mainstream media.  

Speakers left to right: Rick Hanlon, Ming Long, Tanya Hosch, Lorri Williams, Thomas Mayo, Dr Anthony Dillon, and Solomon Booth who is not pictured.

Read more: Voices on the Voice


Our second story harks back a few decades, to a young girl watching her mother working far away from home, and sending parcels of books, pencils, and even footy boots, back to her family in south west NSW. Those memories were the genesis of Opening the Doors Foundation, but where to begin? In her own words, Vicki Clark, OAM didn’t have a clue how to set up the foundation that was her dream. And then, in walked the young lawyer named John Arthur.

How Vicki and John worked together to help Aboriginal families all around Victoria is the basis of this story: 10,000 Doors to Success.

Read more: Opening the Doors to Education


In our first episode, we introduce you to David Newry, a Miriwoong man, born and bred in remote north west Western Australia – almost part of the land itself – and Knut J. Olawsky, a German-born linguist who has worked in Africa, America, New Guinea and Australia. Hear about how David and KJ are working together to preserve the ancient Miriwoong language and the culture and traditions of the First Nations people who speak it. Through language, the old people hope to pass on all-important history, customs, stories, traditions – all those things that give all of us a sense of identity.

David and KJ work together at the Mirima Language Centre in Kununurra, WA.

Read more: Bringing Miriwoong Back